04 December 2013

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Twelve Things about The Hunger Games: Catching Fire

12. A few days ago, I mentioned this movie to a French trainee who loves cinema but doesn't really watch much stuff out of Hollywood. Naturally, she asked whether she should see this one, too. And I surprised myself by saying . . .

"No . . . Not unless you saw the first movie and really liked it--or read the book and really liked it. The Hunger Games movies are like the Harry Potter movies: they were made for people who were already fans, but they likely won't stand on their own for anyone who doesn't already like what they're about."

11. So what are they about? Honestly, the poster on the left tells you 80% of what you need to know. It just needs its own Edward and Jacob to be completely accurate. You see, despite my off-the-cuff comment to my trainee, the true comparison is between The Hunger Games and Twilight.

So the next time someone asks me whether he should watch this, I'll say, "If you thought that Hermione Granger should have been in a love triangle with Harry Potter and Ron Weasley, then yes." (Oh, hello there, LTG!)

10. Now, I can't deny that I enjoyed Suzanne Collins's books the first time I read them (Put down the knife, Christopher!) and that this movie was made for me, too. But it was because it followed the book so closely that it helped me to put my finger on the real problem with Collins's fantasy.


Before we go any further, tell me what you see in this picture.
(Hint: It's also everything that's wrong with this story.)

If you said, "A froufrou fashion fright," I applaud your good taste and your alliteration . . . and cattily add that it's supposed to be the world's most breathtaking wedding gown. (I know, right???) But costume design has been hit-or-miss since the first movie, and it's not the hill I want to die on today.

If you said, "A very beautiful girl who would steal the show from everybody else, dress or no dress," I have no argument with you. But I have also reached my hill of death. 

9. You see, the Hunger Games trilogy expects us to believe that there were absolutely no significant attempts at reform before this point in Panem's history . . . That it really took seventy-five years before enough people in the Capitol and the surrounding twelve districts grew truly disgusted with the practice of sending teenagers into an arena to kill each other and covering the carnage for television . . . That nobody but Katniss Everdeen could have inspired an entire civilisation to push back against injustice and barbarism . . . That what Bella Swan is to Edward Cullen, Katniss Everdeen is to Panem.

If you prefer images to analogies, let me put it this way: we're supposed to believe that the old man who was brave enough to give the mockingjay salute to Katniss and Peeta in public . . .


. . . which led to everyone else in the public square having the courage to commit the same act of political defiance . . .


. . . presumably hadn't done anything to indicate that he had a problem with the barbaric ritual until he watched the series in which Katniss was the star. Formerly a feckless coward, he liked what he saw of Katniss on TV and became a hero. (Unfortunately, that's not a non sequitur.)

8. But I must give some credit where it's due and I applaud the treatment of District 12 escort Effie Trinket, whose butterfly-inspired ensemble is my favourite costume in the whole movie. (Do you see the little ones in her eyelashes? I love those details!) We all know that Effie is frivolous and a little shallow, but now we see that she is also very affectionate.

I was touched by the scene when she reveals how much Katniss, Peeta and even Haymitch have come to mean to her. In the novel, her thinking of them as a team is just another sign of how clueless she is (since she and the other three are hardly on the same page); but in the movie, her wish that they all wear matching "tokens" as a sign of unity stays true to her fashion-obsessed character while letting her grow.

The best part is that it's organic, not miraculous. Effie doesn't become a better person just because she touched the hem of Katniss's garment or something.

7. While I totally agree that our protagonist deserves admiration for volunteering to take her sister's place and for trying to save another little girl in the arena, it seriously floors me to think that this sort of thing never happened before. "Career" tributes aside, did no one else ever step forward to take the place of someone younger, smaller and weaker who had been "reaped" to die for their whole district? No one else in seventy-five years???

Since the answer is no, I can only conclude that The Hunger Games is another of those Special Snowflake Freak fantasies that are the great enablers of our time. I'm not sure if its reflection in Katniss's white gown is a Freudian fashion slip or a deliberate part of the dress's design.

6. And frankly, I find all the tributes/victors interesting, not just Katniss and Peeta. In fact, I always have--and I wish that I could look them all up, learn their stories, and yes, even watch their games, to get a better sense of them as three-dimensional human beings. But some of them get more screen time in this fan-made video than they do in the entire movie.


Of course the only ones we ever get to know properly are those whom Katniss wants for her allies or those who want Katniss for an ally. Because, you know, Katniss is the centre of the universe. (I find it quite telling that the age which is least sympathetic to the "Great Man" theory of history has no trouble with the "Great Girl" fantasy of literature.)

5. My favourite new cast member was Jena Malone, who is great as District 7 victor Johanna Mason. Although Johanna easily stands out in the novel as the most disgruntled of the returning victors, her characterisation struggles to rise above the level of a stereotype. Jena takes that uninspired material and makes it come alive. I always like Malone when she is in a movie, and now I kind of wish that she were the one playing Katniss.


On the other hand, I wasn't too impressed with Sam Clafin. His character Finnick Odair is supposed to be so gorgeous that he makes women faint by reading love poems aloud, and I simply was not hit between the eyes when I first saw the guy. But my sister assures me that he has a nicer than average body, my mother finds him "very cute," and I think that David Tennant (no slouch at reciting love poetry!) is the sexiest man alive, so what do I know?

Who were your favourite and least favourite of the returning victors?
That is, whom would you be most likely and least likely to sponsor? ;-)

4. The sense that this is All About Katniss is reinforced by another change by the filmmakers. In the original story, the special twists for the Quarter Quells were written long in advance. That is, the changes in the rules which define every twenty-fifth game were devised by the people who first thought up the Hunger Games and the Capitol just carries them out religiously. There is a moment in the novel when Katniss wonders whether the Quarter Quells are rigged because of her, but the possibility is never brought up again . . . possibly because it would take a paranoid schizophrenic to believe something so outrageous. So by explicitly revealing that the quell is rigged and that it's all because of Katniss, the movie opens itself to the interpretation that she was knocked into a coma during the last games and that all subsequent events are a self-absorbed dream she can't wake up from. (But that's another Jena Malone movie, isn't it? Bwahahahahahahaha!)

Now, I don't mind the change itself too much, because what is lost in world building is gained back in plotting. What I do mind is that we're bumping up against the walls of Collins's imagination and finding out how limited it actually is. It's just too incredible to believe that the Capitol doesn't have PR people savvy enough to manipulate the narrative to their advantage without killing anyone. After all, remember that they still have control of the media, that Katniss's plans are not half as good as her dumb luck, that she has started to play along for other people's sake, and that even her biggest fans seem to believe everything they see on TV. In our world, PR people would give anything for odds like those!!!

3. One sequence which probably won't age well is Katniss's archery demonstration in the training centre, which you can see a little bit of in the following clip . . .


Our children will find it as laughable as we find the stop-motion monsters in the original Clash of the Titans. Yet I mention this not to mock Catching Fire, but to give it cuddles for when it can't help being cheesily adorable. I like this part! =)

2. When all is said and done, though, the training centre sequence will never be a tenth as embarrassing as the scene in which Katniss gets to be Jesus. It's almost exactly like this moment from Alien 3 . . .

. . . which is as un-Marian as it is pseudo-Messianic . . .

. . . only a lot less subtle. =P

But to be truly fair to the filmmakers, who probably aren't believers, it's not a totally indulgent connection. Jesus caused a lot of trouble just by existing, too--and his enemies wanted His execution to be as public as possible as well. They might have even televised it, had they access to the technology.

Of course, the true and proper distinction is that ontological chasm between a projected or perceived messiah and The Real Deal.

1.And then there's the cliffhanger ending . . .

Image Sources: a) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire poster, b) Katniss and the Tributes, c) Old man's mockingjay salute, d) District 11 mockingjay salute, e) Effie Trinket's butterfly dress, f) Johanna Mason and Finnick Odair, g) Alien 3 screen cap

14 comments:

Angie Tusa said...

11. Maybe it's just because when you read you have a little more control over what you "see" but I feel like the films are playing up the love triangle far more than the books did. I always got the feeling that Katniss had affection for Gale in a familial way, and that she had romantic feelings for Peeta but wasn't quite ready to admit that. Which would make her far more like Hermoine Granger than Bella Swan! :)

By contrast, the films have a Hemsworth playing Gale, and so they're really trying to make him seem like a possible love interest as much as possible. Which makes me wonder how they will portray him in Mockingjay...

9. I suppose you can debate what counts as significant, but there definitely have been protests and riots before. District 13 was completely destroyed, remember, and knowing that could put an extra bit of fear in the people. And the first film confirms that various riots at singular districts have happened before, there's just never been an act of defiance within the hunger games themselves to allow all districts to view it at once.

And since the star crossed lovers idea is really all because of Peeta revealing his feelings and Katniss deciding to "play along" and use it to her advantage, he's as responsible for all this as she is. :)

8. I also love that butterfly dress so very much! :)

7. I'm sure volunteering has happened before. It's really only the fact that Katniss was able to get herself and Peeta out that makes her different, because she outsmarted the game masters. Volunteering and protecting Rue is something they can play up for the sake of making a good show, not what causes the riots in and of itself.

6. This problem is related to the fact that the books are told from Katniss' perspective. She's the center of the universe because in the books we can't see outside of her, and while they do flesh it out (with Collins' feedback) they still are adapting that story. I always prefer an omniscent narrator myself, as it usually helps to alleviate some of these problems, though it seems that YA often goes for that so the reader can be put in that person's shoes.

5. I also absolute love Jena Malone here, and in just about everything else I've seen her in.

I think Sam Clafin does qualify as the type of man the average woman is going to find very attractive. While not my own personal type either, he is a handsome man, and I thought he pulled off charming very well.

4. Since Collins informed them on this, I don't think this is a change at all. All the scenes we get with Snow in both films provide us what the books can't since we're stuck in Katniss' head. And since when we get to the end we know these games are a set up, it makes perfect sense that Katniss' instincts were right and this was in fact a deliberate change. I also think it also shows this isn't just about Katniss being a special snowflake, this is about Plutarch and his group taking advantage of the situation.

In fact, I'd say Mockingjay is all about disproving the special snowflake idea, but that's a debate we'll leave until those films arrive. :)

3. Stop motion isn't laughable, it's amazing and I wish more people would still use it! :)

2. I am completely blanking on what you're referring to here.

Forgive me for practically writing a blog post here in the comments, I just have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this series! :)

Enbrethiliel said...

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EPIC COMMENT! =D Thanks, Angie!

11. I recall reading somewhere that Suzanne Collins was pressured into including a love triangle when it wasn't part of the original story. If so, then it explains a lot. I reread the novel after seeing the movie, and felt that the possible romance between Katniss and Gale was really, really forced.

9. That's a good point about District 13. And I do recall that Katniss's role in the rebellion diminishes in significance in the third novel, which is "just as it should be," if you ask me. ;-P But I really am turned off by the incredible fawning over her. And I still find it hard to believe that a belligerent type (say, someone like Johanna!) didn't volunteer for the Games in order to screw them up at any earlier point in Panem's history.

7. And now I see that I've been checkmated! ;-) Even if someone else did volunteer and defy the Capitol on live TV, he would still have emerged as a killer rather than as a saviour. So Katniss is special in that sense.

6. Since Katniss and Peeta do research on the other victors, I think that she should have said or noticed more about them. This sort of thing has been done in first person narratives before, without seeming too obvious.

5. JENA FOR THE WIN! =D

4. It's a date for when Mockingjay comes out! ;-)

3. How about "laughable" in the sense that it gets (good-natured) laughs? Yeah, I know that's not the meaning. =P But I'm actually quite fond of it as well, and of all "physical" special effects which show their age after a few years.

2. I'm referring to one of the last scenes, in which the hovercraft rescues Katniss. She has her arms out in a cruciform position and has the burning jungle for a backdrop.

Angie Tusa said...

6. True. We get touches here and there, but not nearly enough. I'd love to see more extended universe books put out, even something like seeing the games from the persepective of Thresh or Foxface.. though that's just inviting Twilight comparisons again, isn't it? :)

2. Oh, you're right. I think I was too busy thinking about what comes next for it to stick in my brain.

Enbrethiliel said...

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6. I seriously considered making that my next FF project. =P Not retelling the same story from the other characters perspectives, but trying to imagine their entire lives until they were reaped a second time.

Sheila said...

Oh, I hate hearing my favorite movies criticized! I prefer to immerse myself in them and not ask too many questions.

I went to see this last week and LOVED it. If there were parts I didn't love, I wasn't noticing at the time.

I think that, while it is Katniss' story, the rebellion is a much bigger story that's been happening a long time. You get that more in the book, but even in the movie, Gale is a rebel from day one. There are lots of people who have been dodging the law or resisting in one way or another. But as Katniss explains in the book, District 12 is unique -- such a backwater that it doesn't get the strictness the others do. Salutary neglect -- allowing rebellion to get much further in District 12 than elsewhere. Like in the American colonies, you can't neglect a district for awhile and then slam down hard without starting a rebellion.

But the Capitol's brilliance has counted on dividing and conquering. In District 12 (and presumably elsewhere) they set the rich against the poor by letting people put their names in more times for more food. And within the districts, poor districts like 12 hate rich ones like 1 and 2 almost as much or even more than they hate the Capitol.

The trouble is that no one ever had *hope* before. They always felt they wouldn't win. An uprising here, one there, but each put down without any word reaching the other districts. Communication is cut off so they can't coordinate their rebellion. Katniss is an opportunity for them to coordinate ... and yes, she is being used for that. When the old man salutes her, he isn't just saying "I like Rue and I liked the way you honored her" ... he's also well aware that it's all being broadcast live. It's a way for him to pass the word to the other districts ... "We in District 9 are ready to rebel."

I think the third book reveals this and ties together much better. The movies just don't explain enough ... they can't. John watched the first with me and said "so what's the point? How are they going to make two more movies about this?" Whereas in the books there was never any question that the first book was setting stuff up.

No, Finnick's not hot. Gale is the only handsome guy in the movie, IMO. But Finnick is conventionally gorgeous I suppose, and has that alpha charm that some people like.

My favorite victors are Nuts and Bolts. Love 'em.

Effie stands in for all the Capitol crowd that helps Katniss. Remember how her stylists were sobbing prepping her for the second Games? They *expected* to lose her the first time. When she won, they let themselves get attached. And that's the case with all of the Capitol ... for the first time, they are seeing the humanity of the tributes.

Oh, and Katniss is not at all the first volunteer. Just the first from District 12. The other districts did it all the time, but District 12 is so demoralized and also divided between rich and poor that it never happened (at least in anyone's memory).

Hunger Games was a trilogy that really got me thinking. I guess that's what I love about it most. Thinking "if things really went south here in America, what exactly would we do about it?" Unfortunately the book doesn't really answer. I would like more about their battle strategy, but that's not the focus of the book.

HG fanfiction would be awesome. The stories about the other tributes would be great ... Finnick and Annie especially. Or something about the war itself out in the districts. Because there is a *lot* more going on than just publicity stunts.

Enbrethiliel said...

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First Brave, now Catching Fire, aye? ;-) But I'm sure that one day we will find a movie that we both really love!

While I do get all that you're saying about communication and media, I feel that Collins herself sells us short. Her Hunger Games are based on the present cynical attitude towards Reality TV, but even our superficial Reality TV is a much bigger phenomenon than she manages to make the Hunger Games. I also think that a lot of people who are genuinely fed up with it but still reference it in conversation remain as caught up in the net as its biggest fans. Reality TV is just one symptom, among Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Foursquare, and yes, even Blogger. =P So I find it unbelievable that District 12 has remained so untainted. That there have been no District 12 teenagers in recent memory cynical enough to think that volunteering would be a good career move . . . or romantic enough to think that volunteering would give them a chance to meet Finnick . . . or just desensitised enough to form a Hunger Games fan club.

So the old man's salute remains off to me. He's not rebelling; he's becoming part of the entertainment. If I had been in charge of PR, I would have appropriated the mockingjay salute, made all the Districts do it, printed up banners of President Snow doing it, etc., until it became meaningless. So I'm not impressed that the Capitol doesn't seem to be as media-savvy as I am. And I really find it hard to believe that people who know the power of TV haven't tried to communicate in code before. Like right after Annie Cresta's victory. She would have been another good choice for mockingjay.

Another issue, while I'm, uh, on fire . . . It has been hinted that the Capitol rig the reapings in order to have the children of victors as tributes, so it doesn't make sense that they would stop there. If rigging were an accepted part of the Games and I were in charge of "casting," I would have made sure that Gale (or some other trouble-making rebel!) became a District 12 tribute long before the seventy-fourth Games. That will show him! =P

Basically, I feel that I've thought Panem out more thoroughly than Collins has . . . but of course that's easy for me to say and doesn't amount to much.

PS -- I never meant for this to turn into a serious discussion of masculine beauty, but . . . If you had said that there's only one really handsome guy among the cast members, I would have said, "Yeah . . . Josh Hutcherson." LOL!

Sheila said...

Nope. Peeta is just pretty. Not for me.

I forgot to mention Cinna, though. He is HOT. I love his whole character.

Did any of the authorities know that Gale was such a rebel? Seems everyone who did know was local and more on his side than the Capitol's -- yes, even the mayor, who obviously didn't want his source of squirrel and venison to dry up.

District 12 never volunteers because District 12 ALWAYS loses. No sponsors. No presents. And they're all half starved and out of shape. Katniss points out that the other districts at least have on the job training, but kids aren't allowed down into the mines. In general District 12 kids know that if they go to the Games, they will be dead. Kind of kills any romantic view of it.

Enbrethiliel said...

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Well, Haymitch won twenty-five years earlier. I'm sure it would have had some effect on District 12, for at least a couple of years. Parcel Day alone would have made a huge impression, given what everyone would have already been risking for meagre tesserae.

It also baffles me that no one from the Capitol cared to do something about District 12's losing streak. Even shows like American Idol try "to season the pot" so that winners end up as diverse a group as possible--which is why five years in a row of "White Guys with Guitars" (#WGWG!!!) were both embarrassing to the producers and discouraging to the hopefuls. If I were the Games Master at any point in the last twenty-five years, I would be very nervous about Districts 1, 2 and 4 consistently dominating the Games . . . and maybe I'd blackmail the mayor of District 12 ("Your daughter is going in unless you name an angry boy who can handle himself in a fight and a pretty girl whom you think sponsors will like") to make sure I get some worthy tributes from there.

There's a sense that the Capitol brought the rebellion upon itself, not because of its corruption and decadence, but because of its mismanagement of the Games. Having said that, I do concede that being so corrupt and decadent will make one stupid that way. ;-P

Sheila said...

Keep in mind that the whole Quarter Quell strategy was Plutarch's ... and Plutarch was "on our side." His strategy was just credible enough to convince Snow, not enough to actually work.

In the same vein, the Hunger Games aren't just to cow the Districts ... they are also to keep the Capitol crowd enthusiastic and supporting Snow. That's why they *couldn't* just kill Katniss. It would have cost votes. Snow has to pretend that the Quarter Quell idea just came out of an envelope, that he didn't make it up himself, or the Capitol would have been up in arms against him. They *hated* the Quarter Quell. And in the end, it absolutely did alienate the Capitol citizens, though at that point Snow was up against the wall and I suppose he figured he had no choice.

It's clear that the previous game maker made a mistake letting her and Peeta both live. Snow, I'm sure, would have preferred letting them both eat poison, then zipping in to pump the stomach of the one they wanted as Victor. Which I think would be Peeta.

So in short, you're right. The Capitol *could* neutralize Katniss. It's their tragic flaw that they're too attached to their entertainment to do that.

Incidentally, your imagined scenario ("Your daughter is going in unless you name an angry boy who can handle himself in a fight and a pretty girl whom you think sponsors will like") may very well be what happened to Annie, or one of the other victors! We can definitely see that there are plenty of Victors who aren't Careers. That's supposed to be enough to show the lesser Districts that, well, the Games aren't so bad, you *could* win, and so forth.

But District 12? No one bothered. District 12 is not considered sexy. They're even poorer than the other districts, they're the smallest, and their costumes are always lame. The Capitol is content to have a perpetual underdog for the victors to make fun of. Heck, America does that to Appalachia now, and it's the same region. (Do non-Americans get all the regional references? You can look up a map of Panem to see where people imagine the Districts to be, though the author didn't make any herself.) West Virginia is the poorest state, the one everyone makes fun of, calling them inbred and uneducated and dirty. If there is a character from there in a reality show, they are there to laugh at, not to win. Collins chose her hero's hometown carefully.

To paraphrase, "Can anything good ever come from District 12?"

Enbrethiliel said...

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I still think that only the movie lets us say for certain that the rule change for this Quarter Quell is Plutarch's idea, though, of course, the book doesn't totally rule it out, either. While I personally lean towards the idea that the twist had been written seventy-five years in the past, I do think that its being Plutarch's own idea is much better plotting. Of course, you can shut me up right now and say that it's clarified in the text of Mockingjay or something. LOL!

Now I find it really interesting that you think Seneca Crane and Snow would have wanted Peeta to be the winner. I would have guessed that they wanted Katniss as their victor, because she'd be the more tragic romantic figure. (A girl who kills a boy who turns on her still looks a bit better than a boy who kills a girl who turns on him.) And having her win by killing someone who loves her would be a personal sick pleasure for Snow.

I have read comparisons between District 12 and Appalachia before, and know a tiny bit about the poverty in the latter, but you're right that a non-American would miss the regional references. I really hadn't considered that District 12 would be the perpetual "fodder" pool . . . or that Haymitch, having been expected to die for the glory of someone from a more popular district, would have been one of the most hated victors. Perhaps he even emerged from the Games thinking that at least he'd be treated like a hero . . . only to face the kind of reaction which returning veterans do. =( But in that case, why do you think Katniss and Peeta were able to become so popular?

Sheila said...

I just find the idea that the Quarter Quell twist "just happened" to be what would conveniently get rid of Katniss to be a bit unlikely. Surely the people who made up the Hunger Games would know what a disaster it would be to reap existing Victors? Or perhaps they just wanted to shake people up, fearing Victors would accumulate too much power and influence. But still, right at that moment ....? It would be a bit too handy. When I read the books I was convinced it was a substitution of Snow's.

Haymitch has been living all alone in Victor's Village all this time. There are some hints (if I remember right) that the others in the district despised him. He's elevated over them, and once the thrill of extra treats wore off, I imagine there would be a lot of resentment that he gets this fine house and does no work while all their men are dying in the mines. He'd be treated like the mayor or any others who worked for the Capitol -- as a collaborator and therefore not truly "one of us." And that's one reason why he drinks. He actually won, which was the best anyone could hope for, and found it's pretty hollow.

I imagine they'd choose Peeta because Katniss already appeared something of a rebel --- honoring Rue's body and coming up with the double-suicide ploy in the first place. However, if they managed to spin it that she came up with the suicide pact BUT really never ate any poison berries, or didn't eat enough of them, on purpose to kill Peeta while making herself look good ... it could still work. I'm sure they didn't know at that time quite how difficult Katniss is to manage.

Katniss and Peeta are popular for three reasons. First, Katniss subverts the games by honoring Rue the way she does. Second, the love story .... everybody liked that, both in the Capitol and in all the districts. And third, they beat the Capitol at their own game and know it. They got around the rule that you have to kill or be killed. That had to thrill the districts to no end.

Then, of course, on the victory tour I'm sure it became obvious that they are not the Capitol's pawns and they aren't going to lord their victory over everyone else ... the way it appears most victors either do or appear to do. (Especially if they are good little victors and read the words on the cue cards!) What they are showing is *solidarity.* It worked in Poland, and apparently it works in Panem too.

Enbrethiliel said...

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The main reason I didn't buy that Snow made the switch was that someone who has seen so many Games come and go would have figured that Katniss was more than a temporary problem. In fact, had this happened any other year, she would have eventually become, like all the other victors, a flash in the pan. Especially since she'd be expected to mentor new tributes and would probably not be able to keep them alive. (I wonder whether this is what Haymitch is really hated for. If he had managed to bring some tributes home, he would have still been doing a job that the men in the mines wouldn't have resented him for.)

The second reason was that there is a religious aspect to child sacrifice in any form, even if the only "god" the children are being sacrificed to is a minotaur or the state. So it was very plausible to me that Snow would have "piously" carried out the original Quarter Quell instructions rather than substitute his own or let Plutarch pull the wool over his eyes with another substitution. It's also plausible to me that the originators of the Games were so disdainful of human life that they would not have guessed what effect the third Quarter Quell would have.

But having said all that, I've actually come around to your interpretation. Because one thing I don't find plausible is that the originators of the Hunger Games would have been such good long-term planners, even if they subconsciously knew that they were instituting something quasi-religious. (Besides, as Eegahlnc pointed out in his review, there's no religion in Panem. Not even a whiff of superstition. Even the idea that good governance depends on the Games is totally logic-based.) There's something so arbitrary about the twenty-five year time period that I doubt it came from the originators; it would have been something an enthusiastic promoter thought up.

love the girls said...

I read the books as they came out, but as with the first movie, I'll wait for it to come out on video.

My daughter, Mary, purchased her opening night ticket months ago when they first came out online, and then went back two days later to see it again with her older sister, Lucy, and now all the girls in the family sans Veronica (age 4) have seen it. And they all think its wonderful.

Enbrethiliel said...

+JMJ+

I think most people really love Catching Fire. It's just my calling in life to rain on everyone's parade. =P